As I walk down the street, often people ask me, “John, how can I avoid the hell-fire and torment of eternal damnation?” When it comes to marriage the answer is simple: Never get divorced. Ever.
Jesus says getting divorced is a sin:
Mark 10:9-11
9 Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.”
10 When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this.
11 He answered, “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her.
12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.
Interestingly, Jesus never once even mentioned homosexuals or homosexual behavior. I assume this was some sort of clerical oversight that will be rectified during the end of days as described in the Book of Revelation. Perhaps during Satan’s 1,000 year reign. I’ll get back to you on that one.
Why not just outlaw all of the mythology and false gods that are so prevalent in our world today and and make Christianity our only recognized religion? It seems like the logical thing to me. Maybe Billy Bush will run for President.
In one of the PSAs, it is noted that those SOCIALISTS in Canada allow divorce – well, so do them ISLAMICAL MUSLIMITES!
To start I will say I am not necessarily opposed to this idea, BUT in protecting children, what if the children are being harmed? In following the women can’t initiate divorce, what if they are being cheated on or lied to or abused? Are there rules? I for one would not want to be married to a man who my young child is saying has showed her his thing and having her touch it, and if i suspect anything I wouldn’t want to be married either. I sure didn’t get married to get divorced and I sure didn’t think that a man I loved would be so obsessed with sex that he would seek it out on the internet or from my child.
A Christian woman must obey the husband who the Lord has placed over her and have faith that he is doing the right thing. A praying wife will change her husband and if she does not then she does not have the faith, end of story! If she is in physical danger then there is law enforcement and judges but in a Christian nation people can not divorce.
You sound pretty judgemental in saying that she doesn’t have faith!! Easy for you to say! you must have a perfect christian husband! be thankful to God for that and pray for others that are not as blessed!
Hate to break it to you Thunder, but the USA is not a Christian nation. It is a nation of religeous freedom. One nation under God, just means God is generic and can mean anything you want your god to mean. Founders of this nation ran and escaped from Religeous persecution and fanatics such as yourself.
Pray all you want to ban divorce, best of luck with that. The minute your entity shows up to convey his feelings on the matter let me know. If he speaks to just you personally, those are voices in your head.
So what is a women to do when her husband is unfaithful and seeks out sex on the internet. I was getting concerned that his choices were getting to be to much. I believe and believed that god was telling me that something was wrong. That there was not something right going on and that I need to get out of the situation. Come to find out my 7 yo told me that he showed her his thing and porn on the computer at our ministers house (we were house sitting). Then she told her counselor that he had her touch him on multiple occasions. so Son of Thunder are you saying that I should have stayed with this man and let him abuse my precious child. Not to mention my child is a christian. She is seven and enjoys following along in the bible as we read and in the hymnal as we sing and read from it. She is also the only child in our church who knows the lords prayer by heart. I have raised her in the church and am a christian woman myself.
You absolutely should have stayed! The bible tells us that one spouse’s faith will save the other even if they are not of faith. Your faith and prayer would have been his salvation. now that you have left, his chance for salvation has dwindled and you are responsible.
jimmie I sure hope no child is ever around you. My child has told us things that were showing that my ex-husband was close to molesting her and you think I should have stayed with him. I really think you need to be prayed for. In being a christian I have learned a few things, 1 being God is first, For me he is, and 2 family comes next, I have been taught that a christian person, male or female, is to protect there family. I know I have sinned and I have prayed for forgiveness and I have been forgiven. My child needed my protection from her step-father and I protected her. When YOU have a child you will understand, and if you do have a child put yourself in my shoes. I will NOT let anyone hurt my child because she does not deserved to be abused. She is a child of God and is precious. She did not need to be around him and the only way I could have stayed with a man like that would be to give up my child and I would NEVER choose a man over my child NEVER!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, “Jesus was wrong”…. But This nation was built with the God in country in government and with the shape of the spirit of the people. Just because the nation is filled with ignorance until something bad happens and then screams out the name of the Almighty “generic” God and blames “generic” Him for all the bad that happened, doesn’t mean that He hasn’t nor continues to not visit you to give you His word on what is and what was and what will be forever more. In fact, the only reason that this nation hasn’t become one big smouldering dustbowl crater is because of the prayer of true believing God fearing Christ Worshipping men and women of God that stand in the trenches praying unceasingly to give you the freedom and the chance to say something ignorant like that without getting your head cut off or hung, or chopped into pieces. Islam-like under the law of Sharia. And they’re not praying that there’s no divorce , they want to restrict and deter people from marrying for stupid reasons just to divorce for other stupid reasons. Marriage isn’t frivolous thing, but people continue to treat God’s institution like it’s some plaything. You wanna know what “your entity” has to say on the subject of marriage? Read a Bible. Oh, wait.. it’s only fables and fantasy until something horrible directly affects you or your loved ones, then He’s inexorably real. Not just the “generic” one you scream when you’re having orgasms.
All those details can be worked out. For instance maybe the law against divorce could go into effect with exceptions. Like if you file charges and the courts convict your spouse of abuse toward you or your children you could petition for a divorce. Abused spouses deserve to put the abuser behind bars and children need to see strong values that show this country will not tolerate the act. Am guessing a law banning divorce would reasonable require laws making it easier to convict and jail an abusive spouse or parent.
Of course if we are truly interested in ‘traditional marriage’ than we would allow wife beatings because for most of the vast history of marriage women were a commodity married to provide progeny and put food on the table. It had nothing to do with love.
I guess we have to decide how ‘traditional’ we want to make marriage? Go back to dowries and arranged loveless marriages? Go back to drag her by the hair to your home? Go back to Abrahams day when a wife plus others was the norm? Many of Jesus lineage had concubines yet God chose that particular lineage! Maybe tradition was meant to be between one man and many women after all? LOL
Concerned divorce mom. Concern should also be what your daughter is learning from you. Why did you remarry a different man giving her a step-father? Or did you sleep with someone out of wed-lock to produce your daughter. Either way, maybe your decisions going forward should be in tune with Jesus’ wisdom.
Try raising your daughter with the church until she has left the home. You have a lot of damage to make up for right now, you don’t need another man to mess that us.
You are forgiven if and only if you repent. Turn away from your sin, and rescue your daughter from your behaviors too before she goes seeking satisfaction from men (as you do).
It hurts to see all the CONFUSION there is among the christian community, and the EXTREMES and the JUDGEMENT passed on divorced people. I was raised in the christian faith and with very strong family ties. I NEVER THOUGHT divorce could happen to me. It’s easy for some of you fanatics to pass judgement without having read your bibles accurately!! Because if you did you would know that there are instances and exceptions for a divorce!! Even Jesus said in Matthew 19: “except for marital unfaithulfulness”!!! hello?!!Also, 1 Corinthians 7 v. 15 states: ” BUT if the unbeleiver leaves, a beleiving man or woman is NOT BOUND (by the law of marriage) in such circumstances”. How about “If one does not take care of his own household he is worst that the unbeleiver”.
The above are three reasons for grounds for divorce in accordance with the written Word of God. It’s true that God hates divorce, who doesn’t? As Fas as when Jesus says: “Man shall not separate what God has joined” I ask were ALL marriages made in heaven? were all these individuals in Christ? I realised after 13 yrs of MARRIAGE with a lot of emotional abuse where my children were being neglected and I was being rejected, that the VERY VOWS of marriage were already broken by my husband…occasional sexual intimacy and not caring for the needs of our children, or my emotional needs. I couldn’t change him. Can you change anyone? I don’t like the things posted on this web-page and find that the person behind it is an EXTREMIST. Although I too am stunned on the high rates of divorce in this country, banning divorce is not the answer…but yes, some CHANGES are necessary to the laws of divorce. Think about the cases where abuse occurs.. women and children suffer and the consequences and scars are permanent.
Christan Divorce Woman,
I can see that you strive to follow Jesus’s teachings and to find solace and direction in the bible. What is your view about homosexuals getting married?
I’m pretty sure this website was meant to be a joke, to satirically poke fun at extremism. Obviously you are a sincere, Christian woman who is struggling to find your truth within a life that fits your beliefs, so please seek out an equally sincere source for guidance. You and your children deserve it! And, my 2 cents, you absolutely did the right thing in removing yourself and your child from an abusive situation.
Hey, Concerned divorced woman… I think God will understand if you married an animal that wound up desecrating your daughter’s innocence. Jesus said that we should care for the least of them. If your husband or ex as it may be, is molesting your daughter, you get out of that house or get him out. You can be separated for as long as you want. If you have to divorce to get him away, then that’s what has to happen. Provided you didn’t know he had that kind of trait to do harm like that… and then married him anyway… people do crazy things when they say they’re in love, God’s unmerited favor is enough for you to do what you have to do to protect you and your child. Jimmie saying that you have to stay with that guy is not only not looking out for your child but it’s assinine. God is not in the business of punishing people for a decision that He helped to unite you and your ex as one, but He is in the business of protecting His children. His beloved. He will NOT tolerate the destruction of the innocence of children born or unborn.
Do what you have to do to save your kid(s).
God bless
sonic, you are wrong. Would Jesus have left this man? No, he would have stayed and healed him by showing that no matter how much he sinned, he was still loved. By abandoning him like she did, she has assured that he will continue to sin. Think of all the other innocent victims there may be, as he continues this lifestyle. I don’t know how she can sleep knowing she has unleashed this monster on the world.
Todd, you need to seek wisdom. First off, She is not Jesus. And while it’s in our power to pray for someone, it is not in our power to change someone. That’s something that that person would have to do. God wants us to adhere to His word, and that not only gives us wisdom, but common sense. You can NOT tell me that if your wife was molesting or attemptiing to molest the child you two made together that you wouldn’t do whatever it took to save that child’s innocence. It’s not so much abandoning as much as saving your child. Let’s not be stupid here. God gave you sense to rightly divide His word so that your life won’t be a burden to you. Jesus did whatever it took to protect those that deserved it. WHile that may be anyone, it’s certainly not everyone. His word and his power is only limited to one’s free will. If you stayed with a woman that molested your children, you’d be a fool. A. FOOL. If you stayed with someone that murdered or abused your children and didn’t do what it took to make them safe, you’d be a FOOL. Get yourself out of religion, dude and think of what the Father would do if someone was coming against HIs people. He doesn’t play and neither should you if you’re a father.
Wake up, man, and stop making Born Again Christians look bad. Sheesh.
Now would God give up on the molester,… no. Would He give up on a murderer? No. Would He not offer the same salvation to anyone looking to have burdens removed and yokes destroyed? Heavens No. That’s something that God would deal with in the individual that’s living foul. And still even if the individual gave his/her life to God, they would still have to deal with the repercussions of what they did to rob the wholeness from others. Only God can do a work in someone like that. NOT the wife or husband of that someone. Staying their can only exacerbate the situation because the trust is gone. The husband/ wife cannot trust until they’ve seen that a total work has been done to that individual and even then, it’s a toss up. Better to be alone raising the children than to be with a person that would do such an unthinkable act.
Amen Sonic! An praying a husband into salvation even when unequally yoked is ridiculous!
We are all to pray for one another but blaming someone for someone’s lack of salvation IS asinine. What kind of person submits their helpless (the least of those) children to molestation? Sorry friends not biblical. Protect life…born and unborn
Hey, I’m still looking around for a Tent of Meeting so a priest can sacrifice these two young pigeons I trapped and make atonement for me for the uncleanness of my monthly discharge (Lev: 15:28)In the meantime, because I do not have authority over a man (1 Cor: 14:34,1 Tim: 2:11), I guess I’ll just speak to the ladies here: We are clearly directed to submit to our husbands (Col 3:18)…the real brain teaser is this: What if OUR HUSBANDS want a divorce? Do we submit as we are instructed to? Or do we committ the sin of divorce?
THAT is why we need this law. My lady brain hurts just imagining trying to figure out what is the worse sin! Disobedience or Divorce…A No Divorce Law just makes sense.
don’t worry your little heart there honey, i’ll do the thinking for you…if your husband divorces you, pray and pray and pray some more. he’ll be damned because he is causing you to sin, but you’ll be ok.
You’ve got it wrong (I’m a man, so I think I’ve got headship in this situation, and can talk like this at you). Divorce is not a sin: acting like you’ve been divorced by marrying someone else is sinful—just like we’ve got nothing against teh gay, just their acting gay in any minute way.
What I find humorous in the comments is the people who are taking this too seriously! They cannot see that this isn’t truly meant to be taken as literally as they are interpreting it. It’s meant to be ironic… all of this. Chill out, people and laugh a little!
there is nothing funny about God’s law and eternal damnation! I pray for your soul!
No, there is nothing funny in these prospects…but your (and so many others’) believing in them, thinking that God is good in any human-perceivable way at the same time, and using the prospect of your opponent’s eternal torture as a form of consolation are, in fact, hilarious.
Hell is a wonderful way to liberate your troops: nothing they do to those heathens can compare with what God will allow to be done to them after death, so why hold back? Why hold any consideration for the chaff meant for the Rire?
While that is true, Thomas,….
Knock it off.
That’s why people think Christians are so plastic. You’re not helping one bit.
Skyth, you are so right! I can’t believe people are taking this seriously. Maybe these people are just posting these comments to get a response. This has to be the funniest web site I have been to in ages. When I need a good laugh, I come here and listen to the PSAs. I LOVE THIS SITE!!!
A hard topic to debate, but I think we did a goo job. Check out our video to support the cause: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBo6U1mdINc
@Concerned Divorced Mom – jimmy and sons of thunder are idiots. Remove yourself and your children from harmful situations. There is nothing un-biblical about doing so. Christian divorced woman’s post is the only one with some sanity here.
Sure God hates divorce just like he hates gays, the difference is that when you divorce, you repent and get on with your life, whereas homosexuality lasts a lifetime.
It is also possible to continue to have a proper family life after divorce. The homosexual agenda threatens families at their core!
God begs to differ. Who sanctifies marriage? The Holy Spirit does! What is the unforgiveable sin? Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Therefore, those who seek divorce blaspheme Him and commit the unforgivable sin! Divorce plases even the Christian in danger of eternity in the Lake of Fire, and even missing the rapture.
First of all, God doesn’t hate gays. He hates the behavior, the spirit behind the homosexuality. He loves His children, that doesnt’ mean because humanity decided in our own limited logic that homosexuality is a mainstay that GOd should be okay with nor people who decide to follow God’s way. He did leave an out for marriage, and that’s if a man or woman cheated on their mate. IF God put you two toggether in his Holy Martrimony, then to desecrate His institution by defacing, depressing, betraying and destroying what He put together, that person wronged can either work it out if they so choose or leave with a clean break. That’s Bible, that other stuff you’re saying is mischevious madness. First Timothy talks all about what He thinks about it,m although people lie and say that the Bible says that homosexuality is a blessing given by God. I would LOVE to see what chapter and verse that came from. IT IS A LIE.
Let’s all get our facts straight here.
let me clarify my statement… my keys were sticking. Just because in our own limited logic that we decide that homosexuality is a mainstay doesn’t mean that GOD should be okay with our decision and that it’s okay to hate on people that would rather follow what God said in that Bible than what knuckleheads say on this planet to get away with the madness they talk themselves into day to day. People use that GOD IS LOVE speech to cover and okay all manner of chaos.
You all are going about this ALL WRONG! It should be a TERM DESIGNATION on a marriage license! Not an “anti-divorce” initiative! End divorces by allowing a damned marriage to EXPIRE! It will ELIMINATE DIVORCES too (and drive all divorce attorneys OUT OF BUSINESS!).
@John, Jesus agree with you in one thing only. Traditional marriage MUST bear fruit, for the Word of God says the woman is saved through childbirth, in obedience to her earthly Lord, her husband. If a marriage does not or cannot result in natural childern, the Christian State must step in and end that marriage.
I am shocked by what I read. Brainwashing, living in an idiological world. I live a Christian life and still my husband left me for a woman at work. To tell me it is my fault is just too much. I love how it must be my fault. Do you all live in lala land. Get a life and let god pass judgement on me on my day of judgement.
Mr. Thunder……wow. What about people who physically cannot have children (perhaps because of people who believe that the mother should have stayed and prayed her husband from raping the daughter…..daughter grows up and cannot have children because her own father who should have protected her, destroyed her womb.) Sooooo, Mr. Thunder I guess you would say it is all the mother’s fault for not praying hard enough. Wow. You are really making us Christians look like fruit cakes.
Okay it is clear now that A. the creator of this site is sick in the head or B. he’s being sarcastic to try and make some frigid point about prop 8 or C. he’s one of the many bad examples of Christians and if Jesus were here today he’d march into his church or home and set him straight. Man what a waste of space!
The largest issue I see on this site is the lack of love for Christians. Love in the sense the Bible commands – read 1 Corinthians 13 – Really read it. I see alot of logs in folks eyes calling the spec in others eyes.
This movement in the way it is being presented to the general public at large and the broadbrushing of this topic is NOT appropriate. When I watched the PSA and saw the tag on the home page that ‘Chist still loves you but not as much’ – hello, where does the Bible say that? That is totally off-base and misleading not what Jesus ever modeled to those he came into contact with while he was here on earth. ANY SIN including passing judgement, lust, envy, pride, etc. are all not what God wants for our lives and we grieve the Holy Spirit through repeated sinning, but God loves us and His Grace; there’s a reason for it being amazing.
What Marriage needs are those Christians who are willing to come along side those marriages in trouble, pray earnestly for deliverance from evil, love those in the marriage as Christ loves us and let God do the deliverance – not some measure of CA Legislature. When does the State Legislature replace what God has joined together.
Acknowledging the log in my own, I humbly submit this for thought.
Howdy….
It looks like this article has diddly to do with Christians — just another lie-based attack on people who have faith in something bigger than themselves! I can’t believe that anyone with half a brain would honestly believe that you can get guaranteed prayer results in a marriage where one party is hell-bent on abuse and control. Using that logic, we should get guaranteed results with every healing request. No, someone is trolling, BIG time, and it looks like he’s brought along a pile of mini-trolls to help him out! The title *alone* is a great indicator that the author has left his brain in Junior High. What a waste of web space — and some people are going to read this and think that it was written by a CHRISTIAN — because they don’t know what Christ actually said, and they don’t know that the love of Christ is unwavering and permanent.
Agreed. This kind of space on the web is not what Christ wants to have happen. If you really want to know who Jesus is – if you’re not sure, don’t have a clue, read the book of Mark in the Bible. That will show you the falicy of the arguments posted here. Jesus came to transform people out of love, to show them what life is really all about. Don’t take my word. Take God up on His word.
Do this. Say a prayer to God like this, “God, I have no clue about who you really are. I don’t know if I really even care, but I know that I always seem to run into these conversations, and the things I read make me really resent who you are. I am going to read your book, the Bible. I am going to read the book of Mark, and I want to know once and for all who you are. I pray that you give me an open heart to objectively consider your words. Amen” God will meet you here. He stands at the door and knocks.
Jesus always has, and always will love the sinner the same today, yesterday and forever. He wishes that none shall perish from Him. No matter what we do in our earthly lives, He never loves us less, He just hates the sin. We cant escape sin, but just like in any other relationship, friends family or spouse, we must make compromises and acts to strengthen that relationship- the same goes for our Heavenly Father. Thru our relationship with Christ, we are given forgiveness and mercy. I like to use the example of beer goggles. People become more attractive when a person is drunk. When we accept Jesus in our lives He transforms us and The Father then sees us thru Jesus goggles. He no longer sees the sin, just His children. But it takes acceptance and the willingness to change, do our best and follow his will. God Bless u all.
How come jesus was NEVER FUCKING MARRIED if “marriage” is allegedly this “sacred institution” of “god”? Besides, since he WAS a “seeker of men”, maybe it WAS GAY MARRIAGE he had in mind!?
John – Does using the F word make your point more valid? We’re having a civil conversation, and you have to use obsenities? Sorry you feel so upset, but let’s treat everyone with respect, yourself included.
God designed marriage for man. God doesn’t need a help mate. That’s why He didn’t get married. Marriage is an institution designed by God to be a model of the relationship he wants to have with each of His children. Being married allows men to see more clearly, as clearly as possible on this fallen earth, the beauty of what Adam and Eve experienced before the fall. Does it mean that if you never get married, God held out on you? No. Paul wasn’t married. If we all paid more attention to our relationship with TRULY knowing who Jesus was (God in a bod) and were obedient to his model of living on earth – this place we live would be radically different. Radically.
The “F” word? oh. please! There is NOTHING “civil” about any position where RELIGION and imaginary deities are involved in them, and used to justify ANY position! This “god” you speak of, AND the “jeesus” that allegedly existed are MYTHS! The same way the “institution” of “marriage” is a MYTH! The idea that any adults (whether 2 or 20, gay or straight) have to seek the “approved sanctioning” of their PRIVATE, EMOTIONAL CONTRACT is beyond stupid! What goes on between consenting adults neither a “church”, nor a state, nor any other “enitity” claiming a position of power,should have ANY control, endorsement, or opposition over. PERIOD!
I didn’t say Religion John and my comment about civility is about being able to converse about a topic of obvious disparity without getting acutely emotional or verbally belligerent.
Believing what is imaginary is your entitled opinion – I completely disagree. I have had life instances where chance/big bang theories/science/good fortune(who’s behind that one?) and the like had absolutlely nothing to do with it. Those instances (and I’m certainly not alone in this) were personal and intentional, and from God. I certainly understand that you won’t believe me and I take the time to write this anyway.
I don’t stand for religion – the BIGGEST DECEPTION TODAY is that Church/Organized Religion are Christianity. THIS IS TOTALLY WRONG. Christianity has nothing to do with organized religion and has everything to do with a personal realtionship with God. And you have the choice to believe me or not.
Tara I absolutely agree with you that is exactly what I thought when i first saw this site. He is misrepresenting Christianity and all of us opposed should ban together to make people aware of this man and what he is doing.
one last thing to the author of this site, instead of wasting his time and energy on a ban for divorce why doesn’t he use his time and energy on a helpful site for struggling couples, or better yet start a center for ALL the ailments of the world. Such as too much focus on self image so that we have disorders such as anorexia and belemia and people who cut themselves, single mothers and people who are contemplating weather or not they even want to be a single mother. I’m not trying to judge I’m just saying right now there are alot of people he could be helping rather then running the campaign that he is.
Joanie, these are interesting causes you have chosen – but they are not in line with most people’s understanding of Christian Values. The causes that the Christian Establishment puts most of its energy into are banning abortion and forbidding gay marriages. Don’t you agree with these causes?
I agree with these causes however banning abortion isn’t going to fix things it’s just going to make it worse. if Abortion is illegal we would have to deal with women taking things into their own hands, doctor’s and hospitals performing them anyway, not to mention even more criticism and persecution from the otherside. Instead of trying to ban abortion why not instead try and create more programs like crisis pregnancy most importantly programs that target teens in area’s where teen pregnancy is on the rise. If we can get them to not get pregnant that’s one more target group that doesn’t need abortions. As for gay marriage I fear that is something that more then likely won’t be stopped we will just have to deal with it until we die or the lord returns. Believe me I’ve debated the whole marriage thing till I’m blue in the face and their biggest deffence is that aside from our religion there is no reason to forbid them to get married. Seriously try shooting down that one, they just won’t listen. most importantly we need to fix this government and bring it back to full republic status so that we don’t go from a democracy to an oligarchy and then head first into a dictatorship.
Joanie I pray in Jesus name that u will be delivered of your demon of uppityness and submit to your husband if you gots one or your father if u dont amen.
What people don’t seem to understand about this whole thing is that it is a FARCE! It’s poking fun at the lop-sided reasoning behind some fundamentalist Christians views on just who can marry who. People who take this stuff that seriously really need to take a step back and calm down. Sheesh, laugh a little! Can’t you see how absurd the whole thing really is?
oh really then why is it that the man who started this sight was named worlds best person and on the video it say’s that he is actually taking signatures to get this idea on a ballot. I think some people won’t believe it till they see it on the ballot.I seriously think that this idiot is serious.
Skyth. I’m not convinced of his motives. From the CBN Site:
“Marcotte insists he’s being very serious, even though he has been known to engineer a number of harmless social pranks.”
Voters in my State of California need to pass a new law (ballot initiative) stating that, “Mormonism is not a real and true religious faith.” this law shall eliminate tax-exempt status of any LDS church and mormons will no longer be a protected-class status on the basis of religion.
Another law can state, “Only marriage between two adults of the same religious faith is valid or recognized in California.” So that young non-Mormon women can protect themselves from abusive, dishonest Mormon men, YES! =]
God IS Love. So do what He says or He will command His holy angels to torture you forever.
And remember: God is NOT Logic.
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I’m starting to think that alot of you are mormon’s that or else your some time traveling puritians. does the puritian religion still exist, some of you fire and brimstone people on here might want to consider starting it up again. Then I can laugh at all of you when you go on your first witch hunt!
Dear Christian Divorced Mom,
There are crazy people on this board – First, you shouldn’t have to divorce a man who is molesting your child, he should have already been tried and executed! But since the govt. doesn’t protect children anymore, it is your Christian duty to get out of this farce of a marriage that God obviously did not initiate! Have no fear for your salvation. You are a smiled upon by God for your bravery and most of these idiots on here don’t know what they or the Bible is talking about. And please…a woman being saved by bearing children (?) Sorry, but she is saved the same way a man is saved by the bearing of the Christ child. Its a shame the original text of the OT and NT were messed up so much by translators! Get a good concordance and study the meaning of each and every word of the Bible if you want to get it right.
What is all the fuss about? Nothing matters at all since the all powerful, all knowing, most benevolent God has plans for everyone and everything for every moment of existence! If it happens, it is God’s will! There is no “free” will for God’s creatures! If you think there is free will, then you are denying that your God is all powerful and all knowing! God works in mysterious ways and you are powerless to make any changes. Just give up!
Curmudgeon,
Free will absolutely exists. Not obeying God bears consequences. And while God does know everything (omniscient) it does not mean that He alters the course chosen. This is a great mystery. If free will did not exist, Paul in his epistle would not complain of ‘Doing the very thing I hate’, but yet he recognized it was the sin in him provoking him into bad choices, but his HEART was separated so that he was able to see the spiritual battle at play. God never asks anyone to ‘Give up’ – that is not in the Bible. Again, without Free Will then what was the need of the word obedience in the Bible? In closing, God says in his Word, in reference to a person’s heart/soul, “I stand at the door and knock.” It does not say, I busted the door down.
Humbly submitted for your consideration.
Divorced Christians who remarry are adulterers. Your own Bible tells you so. Once divorced, the only way out for you is to remain totally celibate for the remainder of your lives.
Saint Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
Saint Paul is against divorce and those who are divorced are to remain celibate. Paul does say the highest ideal of life is to remain unmarried because such a person can devote their life on Earth entirely to the service of God and His people; rather than worrying about pleasing their mate.
In fact, it is better for Christians to never marry at all. Marriage gets in the way of serving God. Again, 1 Corinthians 7:34 There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.
Basically Christian women should remain unmarried virgins, take up holy orders and join a convent. If they find that their lust is too great, they should get married as an inferior alternative, but should never get divorced, but if they do divorce they are commanded to remain celibate and not re-marry, otherwise they are an adultress.
these comments are proof
some of these comments are proof, and are a testimony to the fact that we are in the, ” last times” . people will be lovers of themselves, not lovers of the good. they purposely seek out teachers who tell them what their, ” itching ears” want to hear. they will, ” wander from the faith and turn to fables “. their consciences will be ,” seared as with a hot iron “. christians these days follow people like todd bentley, who – during the, “lakeland revival” left his wife and 3 children for a younger intern on his staff. and he then immediately got re-married to jessa hasbook, this ,” second marriage ” can never be blessed—it will never be anything more than adultery. now, we know of the many passages that warn us that the sexually immoral, fornicators or adulterers will NEVER INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. here are a few other pastors who are teaching heresy on the subject of divorce, and who have themselves gotten divorced and re-married. john hagee– left his first wife for a younger woman in the congregation and remarried. he then left the ministry for 8 years or so and then became a pastor again. HE IS A HERETIC, AND AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT NOT TO DO. people like hagee and bentley preach on the love of god, almost exclusively. but they
leave out the part about god being just, and being required to punish sin. you see, if a john hagee or a todd bentley preached the truth of god, they would expose themselves. so they
preach on love and forgiveness, instead of judgement, BECAUSE THEY THEMSELVES ARE LIVING IN SIN, AND — UNDER JUDGEMENT – !!! isn’t itt just like america though ?!?!?!? we go too whoever will tell us what our, ” itching ears” want to hear !! if not the pastor, then to a ,” shrink” who will allow us to believe we can live in sin, and still be saved !!! all of this is is froof that we are in the ,” FALIING AWAY” talked of in thessalonians. why do people believe such heresies ??? because they refused to,” love the truth, and so be saved”. so read the first chapter of romans. god gave them over to a,” reprobate mind, to do what ought not to be done” this is not only refering to the homosexual and lesbian communities, but also to alduterers and fornicators. it is time for all real christians to stand up, AND BE EXAMPLES !!! all of this is happening according to the timeline of the bible. we are right on schedule !!!
o.k let me try to make this as clear as possible. everyone likes to say that, ” the bible says that in the case of maritial unfaithfulness, divorce is permitted ” yes it does say that. now let me ,” untwist ” this for you.
if a woman leaves and divorces her husband to go off and live with another man — SHE IS, WAS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE IN ADULTERY.
the only way she is released from her first husband, is if her first husband dies.
the reason, or reasons she left ARE IRRELEVENT !!!!
heres where the devill has clouded our minds.
the woman will claim she left do to abuse.
o.k. what is abuse ? these days abuse can be classified as any of your needs not being met– PERIOD !!!
this is a very clever trick of the devil.
if you’ve been physically abused, you can leave to protect yourself, but you must remain single. – JUST BECAUSE YOU’VE BEEN ABUSED, THAT DOESN’T ALLOW YOU TO RE-MARRY AT WILL !!! YOU MUST KEEP YOUR VOW– REGARSLESS OF WHAT YOUR HUSBAND HAS DONE TO YOU.
you are probably going to say , ” that isn’t fair ” or ” why should i be alone because i made a ” mistake ” and married the wrong person? ”
the answer is simple realy. BECAUSE YOU SAID, ” TIL DEATH DO US PART ” WHEN YOU MARRIED. and you are required to keep your vow until you die, or until your abusive husband dies and releases you from the PERMANENT BOND OF MARRIAGE.
its simple realy, god cannot and will not allow for re- marriage, 1,2,3,4 or 5 times. why you ask? because it allows for the complete break down, and redefinition of WHAT HE CALLS A FAMILY.
so you see, if a man says, ” my wife won’t give me sex when i want it, and thats abuse.
therefore i am allowed to divorce on the grounds of abuse and re-marry, WHO IS HE FOOLING ?!?!?!?! NO-ONE BUT HIMSELF !!!!!!!!!
let me say, read your bible and you will see for your for yourself.
Lol. Look at all of the people that showed up to this place like sheep lining up for the shearing. I kinda feel bad for the people that are biting the bait, but at the same time admire how it managed to bring all of this out of the woodwork. And here I am, a spectator sheep.
For those I feel bad for: Remember, faith only becomes a prison when you let religion take its place indiscriminately. “God” gave you brains too, use them.
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um. Jesus love you whether or not you get a divorce. he loves us the same amount. yes, you will bear the consequences for the divorce. but that does not mean he loves you less. where is your biblical basis saying that he will love one less.
No, Jesus does not mention homosexuality, but the New Testament does: 1 Cor 6:9-10.
Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, Nor the effeminate, nor liers with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor railers, nor extortioners, shall possess the kingdom of God.
It seems like it is hard for divorce parents to seal to their children without the LDS temples. If Eternal Marriage is valuable, so why do most LDS don’t value it.
Hey, I agree with you so much on this issue. Divorce should be banned. And adultery punishable by law, but can you please change the title of this? That scripture says nothing about Jesus’ love. Jesus died for our sins. Everyone is a sinner and he loves us the same whether we sin a little or a lot. Please change this page’s title. I’m looking out for you cuz it can cause lots of controversy. just change it to? Jesus said divorcing is committing adultery, do you want to commit adultery or something. But not about his love. Please. That is biblicly incorrect.
Listen to the song “Families can be together forever” from mormon songs on youtube.com from
lds.org.
Men can only priesthood which they become fathers and women can only bear children whicn they become mothers. Being mother is greatest gift. The family must go to be sealed as one. The marriage can be eternal between a man and a woman in the mormon temples.