Let the attorneys make their money off the relationships with affairs, abuse, etc.. only after all counciling or therapy is attempted.. (including time apart) Heck grant a divorce on a temporary finalization… (where people have the procedure of divorce without the solidity that returing to eachother won’t work.) I think thats the way my wife feels…. the sno ball is rolling down hill and theres no way to stop it. I think more people can work it out, if you had your hand severed in an accident… would you want the doctors to put it back and go through therapy, etc.. to make it work again? Your damn right you would.. (that would be your 1dt choice… only to settle for a prostetic if its your only option. let people who marry and become one treat marriage as such… not as a car they will replace with a new one.

The person that told me about this ban made it out like John Marcotte was some kind of staunch Evangelical Christian Family Rights pundit.

Amazing what doing my own research and reading thoroughly gets me, nothing like a half-truth to make me go WTF yo?!?!?!

My roommate is a gay and rather bitterly angry man (on this topic, at least) who decries his “persecution” by the straight establishment. I myself, as someone who was unfortunate enough to be cursed liking boobies, I have to say the debates in our house often become heated, with an accusation or two as my being the “Man” because I don’t prefer men. He told me that John was an actual bible-basher- and that the gay community was latching onto this argument to illustrate the absurdity and unfairness of limiting the right to marry. The latter parts he got right. I told him that it smacked of a bunch of bitter GLBT folks that are using this issue as an insincere fallacious red-herring appeal to tradition.

I’m a fan of facetious non-sequiturs in an argument- on an interpersonal debate level. Gotta love Steven Colbert on that front.

However, one of the things that I’ve always found very sad is the vehemence over this argument. I’m anti-militaristic myself. I find such divisively bombastic tactics dishonest and a waste of time. I won’t argue that they can sometimes produce results…but at what cost?

Unfortunately, I think the people that are targeted by this initiative aren’t going to get the point. I don’t think the majority of them would get the point if it were attached to the business end of an icepick and thrust into their faces until they lay twitching and bleeding out onto the rug.

I’d like to see the actual issue being addressed instead of some sensationalized Fred Phelps/PETA circus stunt that’s only going to rile up more animosity. I know, I know…I’d make a shitty politician.

I’m afraid that creating an us vs. them polarization- not with just the folks actively opposed to gay marriage- but all straights, is going to backfire. It reminds me of the position I find myself in with some sects of militant vegans that discard what could be allies in the support for a sustainable ecosystem and advances in animal rights because they employ abysmally absurd and abusive tactics who can’t abide people that don’t adhere to their strict, confining dogma.

I support gay marriage, and this kind of attack puts ME on the defensive. It’s deceptive wasteful nature only strengthens my disgust- in a time where the economy seems much more important than these hot-button issues that politicians LOVE to pull out to distract from flagging approval ratings.

If I had my druthers, nobody would get married. I hate the sumptuary excess, I hate the stress, drama and primadonna bullshit of weddings. I hate going to weddings period. I never want to get married, but I endorse others right to do so. If I were King Solomon and so-called “Traditional Marriage” and Gay Marriage were a baby I’d cut that little bastard in half quicker than a chilled watermelon at a Fourth of July picnic.

Marriage is a commitment, sure. It is a vow that was much more pragmatic and necessary in the days of strict inheritance laws, shorter life-spans, more rigid social and gender roles. It could create strife, warfare and misery. Outside the immediate family/friend structure- not just “in-house.” I try not to make any promises more involved than paying my rent on time and taking out the trash when I say I will.

I agree that reality-show Tiny Tim-esque marriages are the best argument against the sacred sanctity of hetero-partnerships you’d ever find.

Well my esteemed gays, lesbians and everyone in between. I hope this bullshit initiative doesn’t find itself on the floor, but I do hope you get your chance to be as ensconced in holy miser- er, matrimony as would any straight couple soon.

Let’s just deal with the real issues though, okay?

A gray guy in a black-and-white world.

When my friend got married, as a best man I was told I was there to support his marriage. We fell out of touch and a suddenly I heard he was divorced! When people get married, all their friends and family are there. People should not be allowed to be divorced without the same sort of input from their friends and family.

For most straight men, marriage means sex in the context of love and partnership (a.k.a. conveniently and frequently). I know a number of couples where one partner stopped having sex, and soon the relationship was in shambles, followed by divorce. Divorce should be illegal and sex, at least twice a week if either partner wants it, should be mandatory.